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  • Pierce O'DonnellCalifornia's 22nd congressional district candidate[1] Los Angeles lawyer Buchwald v. Paramount screenwriter [2] author ISBN 1-56584-958-2 ISBN 0-385-41686-5 [3] California Fair Political Practices Commission[4][5][6][7]
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  1. I am ready to work on the biography articles of Indian or Biography actors Jogesh 69 (talk) 15:00, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  2. come help with the Bronwen Mantel article Smith Jones 22:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Lovelaughterlife (talk · contribs) Worked extensively on some biographies; reverted vandalism some others
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  7. Truth in Comedy (talk · contribs)
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  9. DENAMAX (talk · contribs) Maxim Stoyalov
  10. Ozgod (talk · contribs)
  11. Eremeyv (talk · contribs)
  12. Susanlesch (talk · contribs), mostly inactive
  13. EraserGirl (talk) 03:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Shruti14 (talk · contribs) will help when I can
  15. Jubileeclipman (talk · contribs) I am interested in taking on UK celebrities with articles that are stubs or otherwise non-standard. Entirely rewrote Fearne Cotton to raise standard and remove fansite tag. I am working on Holly Willoughby which was merely a list plus trivia. Will also work on musicians, all genre, living or dead.
  16. Jarhed (talk · contribs) 21:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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  25. The Eloquent Peasant (talk · contribs)
  26. Lopifalko (talk · contribs)
  27. Terasaface (talk) 03:31, 17 January 2020 (UTC) Working on BLP of artists primarily working in the fields of Studio craft[reply]
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  29. Yorubaja (talk · contribs) 14:23:20, 18 January 2021 (UTC) [reply]
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Arts and Entertainment Work Group - Writers and critics

The Arts and Entertainment Work Group - Writers and critics is a working group of members of the Biography WikiProject dedicated to ensuring quality and coverage of biography articles.

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Shoukath (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Expedited PROD to AFD. Clearly not notable, no references on a BLP which is unacceptable, and has been ghostwritten by someone with a COI to the person in this article. DotesConks (talk) 17:39, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Sargent (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Heavily advertorialized WP:BLP of a chef, not properly sourced as passing inclusion criteria for chefs. As always, people are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they have jobs -- you don't make a person notable by citing his own self-published web presence as verification that he exists, you make a person notable by citing media coverage about him in sources independent of himself as verification that he garnered third-party attention.
But this is referenced entirely to primary and unreliable sources that are not support for notability -- his own cookbook being "cited" to itself, his own podcast, TripAdvisor -- except for a single piece of "local man does stuff" in the community hyperlocal newspaper of his own small hometown, which is not nearly enough media coverage to singlehandedly get him over WP:GNG all by itself.
Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to pass GNG on much, much better sourcing than this, and even if it can be salvaged with better sourcing it would have to be heavily rewritten for neutral point of view regardless. Bearcat (talk) 15:18, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Norman Gänser (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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no significant coverage, fails gng ProtobowlAddict uwu! (talk | contributions) 18:25, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jendele Hungbo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPROF Ibjaja055 (talk) 09:48, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Acy Ramos (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails Wikipedia:Notability (people). Notability and Inline citations have been challenged for almost 12 years. GSearch and GNews search only provided passing mentions. No notable awards found during search. --Lenticel (talk) 03:10, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lizzie Waterworth (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I've declined a speedy deletion request on this—voicing the titular character in a major TV series is obviously a credible claim of significance—but sourcing this meagre is clearly not appropriate in a BLP.  ‑ Iridescent 17:50, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kelly Hyman (TV personality) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Repost of previously deleted and salted material: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelly Hyman * Pppery * it has begun... 18:39, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Basu Gautam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lacks Notability. Fails GNG. 4 out of 2 sources are written by subject himself ( can’t be used for notability). One is press release and another one is a blog written by his friend. Rahmatula786 (talk) 15:20, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Nepal. Shellwood (talk) 15:25, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for taking the time to review the article. I would like to respectfully clarify a few points and highlight the efforts already made to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines (WP:GNG).
    I have invested significant time and effort researching and compiling information about Basu Gautam, and I understand the importance of maintaining Wikipedia’s standards. While it is true that some of the initial sources include self-authored content and a press release, these were added to provide context rather than to establish notability.
    However, I want to emphasize that my work did not stop there. I have actively sought and included additional sources, and I am in the process of further expanding the references with reliable, independent, secondary sources that offer significant coverage. These sources aim to address the notability concerns directly.
    I deeply value Wikipedia's commitment to neutrality and verifiability, and I am fully open to constructive suggestions for improvement. If you are aware of specific independent sources or ways to enhance the article's compliance with GNG, I welcome your input.
    Please note that I am committed to improving this article and ensuring it aligns with Wikipedia’s content policies. I kindly request time to make these updates, as I believe the subject has contributed in ways that merit encyclopedic recognition.Please revisit page again GlobalEmpathy (talk) 16:06, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The AFD discussion isn't intended to evaluate whether the article is currently good enough -- just whether it is possible to find multiple independent reliable sources that significantly cover the article subject (whether they exist at all), regardless of the subject's importance. Essentially for the article to be kept it needs to be shown that there are reliable sources describing the subject in some detail, or that they can be assumed to exist (mostly the former). If you're planning to find better sources later you could also propose it be draftified (moved to Draft:Basu Gautam), where it can be worked on without having to be in the main article space. See the policy on suitability for inclusion for details. Mrfoogles (talk) 20:01, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The nomination for deletion should be reconsidered as Basu Gautam meets Wikipedia’s notability guidelines through substantial independent, reliable, and verifiable sources that significantly cover his contributions. Below is a comprehensive breakdown of why the article should be retained:
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    1. Multiple Independent Reliable Sources Establish Notability
    The subject has been extensively covered by reputable third-party sources, including:
    Kathmandu Post – A widely respected publication featuring his views on sustainable tourism and peacebuilding.
    OnlineKhabar – A major Nepali news platform discussing his work on sustainable development.
    Gorkhapatra – A national newspaper reporting on his environmental initiatives.
    Annapurna Post – A well-known news source covering the activities of the Lumbini World Peace Forum.
    MyRepublica – Documenting his leadership in international peace conferences.
    These sources are independent and non-affiliated with Gautam, ensuring an objective validation of his impact.
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    2. Proven Impact in Peace and Environmental Advocacy
    Basu Gautam is not just a passive contributor to social causes; he is a recognized leader in:
    🌍 Lumbini World Peace Forum – A global platform fostering peace and cross-cultural dialogue.
    🌱 One Million Trees Plantation Drive – A large-scale afforestation project addressing climate change.
    Both initiatives have been widely covered by media outlets, showcasing their real-world significance beyond mere self-promotion.
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    3. Recognized by Governments and International Bodies
    A critical aspect of Wikipedia’s notability criteria is recognition by credible institutions. Gautam has received:
    🏆 Peace Ambassador Title – Bestowed by Sarno Municipality, Italy, covered in international media.
    🏆 Youth Inspiration Award 2018 – Awarded by Global Youth Parliament.
    🏆 Youth Icon Award – Conferred by Global Law Thinkers Society, Bangladesh.
    Such distinctions aren’t self-attributed but come from respected external bodies, reinforcing global credibility.
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    4. Meets Wikipedia’s Inclusion Criteria
    As per Wikipedia:Notability (People) guidelines, the subject qualifies because:
    Significant Media Coverage – Multiple news sources provide independent, in-depth discussions.
    Sustained Contributions – His work spans decades in education, peacebuilding, and environmental activism.
    International Recognition – Honors from governments and institutions further validate his standing.
    Since multiple reliable sources exist, Gautam’s notability is well-established, negating any claim that the article lacks merit.
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    5. No Justification for Draftification or Deletion
    The argument for deletion is misplaced, as:
    ❌ The article is not promotional—it is well-sourced and fact-based.
    ❌ There is no lack of independent coverage—reputable sources substantiate his achievements.
    ❌ Draftification is unnecessary, as the article already meets inclusion standards.
    If minor improvements are needed, editing and refinement are better solutions than removal.
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    Conclusion: The Article Should Be Kept
    Basu Gautam is a nationally and internationally recognized figure in peace and environmental activism. His notability is well-documented through independent sources, governmental recognition, and sustained contributions.
    🔹 Instead of deletion or draftification, minor improvements can be made, but the subject’s notability is unquestionable.
    Thus, this AfD should be closed as KEEP. GlobalEmpathy (talk) 13:54, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Please, provide sources to show that they meet the criteria. These wall of texts are not convincing. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 14:14, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your feedback regarding the notability concerns. We understand the importance of meeting Wikipedia’s General Notability Guidelines (GNG) and the need for reliable, independent secondary sources to establish the subject’s significance.
    We respectfully want to clarify that extensive work has gone into sourcing and verifying information. In total, 23 references have been provided on the page, and a substantial portion of these are from reliable, independent sources, not authored by the subject or affiliated individuals.
    While earlier versions may have relied on primary materials such as blogs or press releases, these have been largely replaced or supplemented with third-party coverage. We kindly request a review of the references currently cited on the page, which include recognized media outlets, news articles, and other independent publications. With Kindest Regards, Global Empathy
    For your reference, the article in question is available here:
    👉 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basu_Gautam GlobalEmpathy (talk) 15:56, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators and Environment. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 16:03, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete per WP:GNG, WP:BASIC. English-language references are either authored by Gautam, connected to Gautam Lumbini World Peace Forum (of which Gautam is president [11]), or only have trivial coverage.
I also machine-translated the non-English references:
  • A machine translation of [12] includes "Rise Media Network is the media partner in the One Million Tree Plantation and Conservation Campaign", indicating this article is not independent.
  • [13] [14] [15] are written by Gautam
  • [16] has only a trivial mention of Gautam
  • [17] [18] [19] don't appear to be written by Gautam, but their similar content and puff-piece tone implies they are just press releases.
I could find no additional reliable, independent sources. userdude 20:06, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BLUDGEON
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Notability Justification for Wikipedia Approval: Basu Gautam
Basu Gautam is a Nepalese peace advocate, environmentalist, and founder of the Lumbini World Peace Forum (LWPF). His work in promoting nuclear disarmament, sustainability, and interfaith dialogue has garnered attention in both national and international media. Below is a summary of independent coverage establishing his notability per Wikipedia's guidelines:
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Independent Coverage in Reliable Sources:
1. The Annapurna Express (Nepal’s leading English-language weekly)
2. MyRepublica (Nepal’s major national daily)
3. The Kathmandu Post (Nepal’s most respected English daily)
4. OnlineKhabar (Leading digital news platform)
5. Rising Nepal Daily (Government-run English daily)
6. International Recognition
  • [9] DentroSalerno (Italy) – Covers Gautam’s international peace exhibition in Italy, showing cross-border influence.
  • [10] VetoGate (Arabic) – Highlights his involvement in international peace dialogue, indicating media attention in the Arab world.
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Additional Media Presence (Supporting Sources)
  • Global Law Thinkers Society – Mentions Gautam’s regional environmental leadership.
  • [Personal Essays/Columns] – Gautam has written for reputable outlets like OnlineKhabar and MyRepublica, showing thought leadership.
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Nepali Language Coverage (Machine Translated Highlights)
  • Annapurna Post, eLumbiniKhabar, MeroLifestyle, Hamrakura – These articles consistently document Basu Gautam’s campaigns, awards, and peacebuilding efforts, indicating sustained and significant coverage in domestic media.
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Conclusion
Basu Gautam has received significant coverage in multiple independent and reliable sources, both nationally and internationally. His work has been recognized in English, Nepali, Italian, and Arabic-language media, demonstrating broad impact and sustained relevance in peace and environmental activism.
Therefore, Basu Gautam meets the notability requirements for a standalone Wikipedia article, per Wikipedia's General Notability Guideline (GNG), having substantial coverage in multiple independent and reliable sources. GlobalEmpathy (talk) 07:56, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Additional Independent Coverage and Recognition:
  • Nepalese: He is the son of Dr. Balaram Gautam, former mayor of Siddharthanagar Municipality, and Sita Gautam. Source: Naya Bishwo
  • Nepalese: He has engaged with international peace leaders, including Nobel Peace Laureate Mr. Kailash Satyarthi. Source: OnlineKhabar
  • English: He was invited as a notable speaker by the Embassy of India, Kathmandu, and delivered a presentation titled "Shanti Niketan: Tagore's Idea on Education" at an event celebrating Rabindranath Tagore’s 161st Birth Anniversary, part of INDIA@75 Azadi Ka Amrit Mahotsav. Source: Embassy of India, Kathmandu
GlobalEmpathy (talk) 05:44, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Basu Gautam doesn’t show enough notability per WP:BIO. I did a WP:BEFORE search and found barely any coverage, just a passing mention tied to Jyoti Basu, nothing significant or independent. Without solid, reliable sources showing real impact, it fails WP:GNG too. Not worth keeping. NXcrypto Message 06:26, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete It sure seems like this fellow should be notable but the sources here do not meet the criteria. Of the English language sources they are either 1) by him (not independent) 2) mention him (not significant) or 3) his author bio page (not independent). Not one supports GNG. At least one (the one in Italian) didn't even mention him, nor did the one stating who his father is (unless the translation dropped that information). I highly recommend stopping with the wall of text here, but also please stop including sources that we have already pointed out do not meet WP's WP:Reliable_sources. At this point you are wasting peoples' time, and I, for one, resent that. Lamona (talk) 03:46, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Thank you for your detailed feedback. I appreciate the emphasis on upholding WP:GNG and WP:RS, and I would like to clarify the reasoning behind the sources I provided, using all relevant links. This is my final argument, and if it is deemed insufficient, I accept that the page may be deleted.
    1. Italian News Source (Independent Coverage)
    In this Italian news article, the individual is mentioned as the representative of Lumbini World Peace Forum, a non-profit based in Kathmandu, Nepal. His photograph is published alongside the article. This constitutes independent, in-person coverage of participation in a public event, which supports notability beyond a mere mention.
    2. Regarding His Father – Former Mayor of Siddharth Nagar
    In OPED on Medium, OPED briefly mention that his father is an ex-Mayor of Siddharth Nagar.
    Nepalese news sources have covered this fact independently. Here is one such source:
    • Nepalese News Article – This article references his background, including his father's role as ex-Mayor, and provides independent confirmation.
    I apologize for using the reference after the sentence. The Nepalese news source should have been placed directly after his father’s name for proper attribution.
    3. Meeting with Nobel Laureate Kailash Satyarthi (Significant, Independent Coverage)
    According to Nepali news, the individual met and had breakfast with Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Kailash Satyarthi, which was covered independently:
    • Nepalese News Coverage – This article documents the meeting and includes photos, offering significant coverage and an association with a globally recognized figure.
    4. Use of English Writing
    I referenced his English-language OPED solely to establish that he is a Nepalese author. I fully acknowledge that this source is not independent and does not count toward GNG. It was cited only for authorship context, not for demonstrating notability.
    Conclusion:
    I understand that not all sources meet WP’s reliability or notability criteria. However, the Italian news coverage with a photo, Nepalese media coverage of the meeting with Kailash Satyarthi, and independent verification of his father's political role were intended to support his notability under WP:GNG.
    I respect the consensus process and did not intend to waste anyone’s time. If this clarification is still not enough for establishing notability, I fully accept the outcome.
    Thank you again for your time and for upholding Wikipedia’s standards. GlobalEmpathy (talk) 05:16, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I found this through the academic deletion sorting list but there is not even the appearance of passing any of the WP:PROF notability criteria, and userdude's careful source analysis convinces me that we also do not have WP:GNG-based notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:23, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Lola Adeyemi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable "physician", "politician", and individual. Fails WP:BIO, WP:NAUTHOR, WP:NPOL or WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:53, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Who said she's a politician? Ahola .O (talk) 14:02, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It wasn't mentioned or categorized that she's a politician or an author. She passes both WP:BIO and WP:GNG.
Here are some reports about her on Businessday and Thisdaylive: Why I’m Mentoring a New Generation of Women – THISDAYLIVE, Lola Adeyemi, Founder and CEO at Mentoring Her - Businessday NG but i considered them to be interviews. For WP:BIO, she is a Nigerian cancer researcher that has presented at the American Society of Clinical Oncology (ASCO) and World Health Organization (WHO), has been recognized by Forbes, was awarded by Johns Hopkins University and a Special Advisor to the Minister of Education, Nigeria. I hope this helps. Ahola .O (talk) 14:59, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Fails WP:GNG due to a lack of independent, reliable sources supporting the subject's notability. A brief internet search reveals that most available sources are interviews or press releases, which are not considered reliable for establishing notability. Additionally, presentations at the American Society of Clinical Oncology (ASCO) and the World Health Organization (WHO) do not, on their own, confer notability. Ibjaja055 (talk) 15:44, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete No real sourcing to support a WP:BLP. scope_creepTalk 21:11, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Chris Kennedy (author) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Inadequate article, notabiltiy, and sourcing. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 22:18, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: I could hardly even find confirmation that this person is an author. [21] is about all there is. One source isn't enough for AUTHOR. The article now in wiki only has a primary source. Oaktree b (talk) 23:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy and North Carolina. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 23:21, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Vote FOR keeping, and AGAINST deleting : Yes, of course the initial article is short on details.

    The brief volume of content often happens in brand new articles. I was motivated to create the initial page because when one searches in en.wikipedia.org for "Chris Kennedy", one often instead gets search results for "Christopher G. Kennedy". The difference needed to be clarified. I trust that I and others will eventually expand the content of the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by LP-mn (talkcontribs) 2025-03-17 00:10:46 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:TNT and other reasons. The article has purely been crafted as a coatrack for external links, and when it was supposed to be improved a copyright violation was introduced. The creator unfortunately lacks judgement on the usability of sources, and the above reply removes the last hope for the article. Geschichte (talk) 07:08, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete albeit rather fascinating. He seems to have a whole stable of writers of SciFi; many of the books have multiple authors which is rather unusual for fiction books (not story compilations) and these author groupings are quite prolific. He himself has books coming out about 6 weeks apart, as per his Amazon page. His book that came out on Feb. 28, 2025 has multiple reviews on Amazon that are from ... Feb. 28, 2025. So he either has fast readers or he's gaming Amazon. Self-published, and I note the books do not even have ISBNs, so this is definitely being done on the cheap. Lamona (talk) 03:54, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Lawrence C. Marsh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG & Wp:nprof Sabirkir (talk) 11:18, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. Two items with pretty good citation levels is below what I'm generally looking for in WP:NPROF. University-wide teaching awards do not contribute here. On the other hand, one book tends to fall under WP:BLP1E so far as WP:NAUTHOR goes; I did not anyway find reviews on a cursory search. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 14:13, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Weak delete. For someone at this level of seniority, two well-cited publications (one a textbook) with the rest falling off steeply is below the bar for WP:PROF#C1, and nothing else in the article looks to contribute to notability. I did find one published review of the book, and hints that there might have been another by Garman in [22] (from which any book reviews are now missing), but even if I could find the second review it wouldn't be enough for WP:AUTHOR. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:46, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. To my mind a notable econometrician. His founding of/chairing of the Midwest Econometrics Group (MEG) is I think very notable within the US academic econometrics community and his role as the guest editor for a special edition of a highly prestigious econometrics journal - the Journal of Econometrics is important, as his work on Splines in ecmetrics via his book and papers ... and these seem to me together sufficient for notability. His published academic work in econometrics is very wide ranging....and I have used some if it in different contexts.... His later post-retirement books and media / opinion piece work seem to me less notable (but my bias is towards the academic side) and I don't know how notable his work as an independent Midwest Voices columnist on the Kansas City Star online edition might be from a journalistic point of view. (Msrasnw (talk) 07:56, 19 March 2025 (UTC))[reply]
  • Keep The article has been expanded since its creation. The contributions made by Msrasnw, consisting of valuable content including his publications, serve to further establish the notability of the subject. Gedaali (talk) 08:22, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. While he has (as mentioned above) a couple of well cited papers, the dropoff is fast and the total number of citations at 1359 is weak. His own page does not indicate anything notable except some prior students; notability is not inheritable from his prior students. I don't see indications that his book(s) have had an impact. Ldm1954 (talk) 16:29, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dusty Rhodes (author) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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couldn't find coverage to establish gng or nauthor Eddie891 Talk Work 18:00, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rebecca Renner (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Bio of a one-book author that appears to fail notability guidelines for WP:NAUTHOR and WP:GNG. Single valid reference about this person is an announcement in a small college daily. The other refs provided are her PR agent, blogs, and several of her own bi-lined articles. All the remaining references cover the book, not the author. None of this is enough significant coverage to meet GNG. It seems there could be enough refs for a page about the book where a redirect might be appropriate. CactusWriter (talk) 22:16, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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John Delony (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is no substantive RS coverage of the subject. The subject authored a "Wall Street Journal best-seller" but I'm not sure what that is and whether that meets WP:AUTHOR notability. The page was created by an editor who is creating lots of promotional pages for figures related to Dave Ramsey. Thenightaway (talk) 17:47, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Ramsey Show is the second-most popular radio show in the US. The hosts are well known across the country and have their own podcasts that have large audiences (which you can see from their YouTube views). I created this article because Kamel's notoriety and place as a co-host on the show warranted it.
What about this article sounded promotional? Was there too much biographical info? Are we not supposed to write that books are bestsellers? Are we not supposed to mention that certain recording artists have x amount of top 40 hits or that movies from a certain actor have made billions of dollars, for that matter? Because I've seen those in articles on this platform as well. What is the standard?
I really want to know because I don't think this article deserves to be deleted. I'm happy to adjust to fit standards, and have attempted to do so in the past. But it seems like the "promotional" standard is based on a sliding scale.
And I don't just edit Ramsey-related articles. I have edited and created articles on a variety of subjects from pop culture to music, American history, Disney, etc. Ramsey was just something where I saw a need and filled it. 2719Hyperion (talk) 02:50, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Ramsey Solutions and/or The Ramsey Show, not seeing anything which suggests that the topic is of stand alone notability. GNG is not met and I don't think that any of the SNG are either... Horse Eye's Back (talk) 17:26, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    On top of his two bestselling books and his role as a co-host on the second-most listened to radio show in the US, John Delony recently hit over one million subscribers on his YouTube page. I would argue that qualifies as notoriety, as only a relatively small percentage of YouTube pages hit that milestone.
    These standards seem to have a lot of inconsistencies. I have seen many biographical articles that are less in depth than Delony's and the tone is very similar. I can rewrite, eliminate the "promotional" language, and resubmit for review. I don't think this article should be deleted. 2719Hyperion (talk) 01:49, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge Proposal to merge with The Ramsey Show: After giving this some thought and after reviewing the GNG and SNG, I'm agreeing with this nomination. The Delony article should be merged with The Ramsey Show, as Delony is best known for being a co-host of the show. I will work on merging these articles by creating a section about the hosts on The Ramsey Show article. 2719Hyperion (talk) 01:56, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Ken Coleman (radio host) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is no substantive RS coverage of the subject. The subject authored a "Wall Street Journal best-seller" but I'm not sure what that is and whether that meets WP:AUTHOR notability. The page was created by an editor who is creating lots of promotional pages for figures related to Dave Ramsey. Thenightaway (talk) 17:45, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Ramsey Show is the second-most popular radio show in the US and the hosts are well known across the country and have their own podcasts that have big audiences (which you can see from their YouTube views). I created this article because Coleman's notoriety and place as a co-host on the show warranted it.
What about this article sounded promotional? Was there too much biographical info? Are we not supposed to write that books are bestsellers? Are we not supposed to mention that certain recording artists have x amount of top 40 hits or that movies from a certain actor have made billions of dollars, for that matter? Because I've seen that on this platform as well. What is the standard?
I really want to know because I don't think the article deserves to be deleted. I'm happy adjusting to fit standards, and have attempted to do so in the past.
And I don't just edit Ramsey-related articles. I have edited and created articles on a variety of subjects from pop culture to Disney, music, etc. Ramsey was just something where I saw a need and filled it. 2719Hyperion (talk) 02:44, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am not opposed to a redirect if it turns out that there isn't really anything to merge. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 17:21, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wouldn't merging these articles with The Ramsey Show article make the latter a bit large? And I have seen quite a few biographical articles that contain thinner information than Coleman's. Why are those okay?
I can try and rewrite the article and resubmit for review. I don't think it warrants deletion. 2719Hyperion (talk) 02:37, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Coleman article should not remain in mainspace because as a subject he fails WP:GNG, WP:NBIO and WP:NAUTHOR. But there's a valid reason per WP:ATD to redirect to a notable topic he is associated with, and it will preserve the page history if Coleman becomes notable in the future. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:40, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge with The Ramsey Show: After giving this some thought and after reviewing the GNG and SNG, I'm agreeing with this nomination. The Coleman article should be merged with The Ramsey Show, as Coleman is best known for being a co-host of the show. I will work on merging these articles by creating a section about the hosts on The Ramsey Show article and submit the article for review. 2719Hyperion (talk) 02:18, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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George Kamel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is no substantive RS coverage of the subject. There is nothing to indicate that they are notable. The page was created by an editor who is creating lots of promotional pages for figures related to Dave Ramsey. Thenightaway (talk) 17:41, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Ramsey Show is the second-most popular radio show in the US. The hosts are well known across the country and have their own podcasts that have big audiences (which you can see from their YouTube views). I created this article because Kamel's notoriety and place as a co-host on the show warranted it.
What about this article sounded promotional? Was there too much biographical info? Are we not supposed to write that books are bestsellers? Are we not supposed to mention that certain recording artists have x amount of top 40 hits or that movies from a certain actor have made billions of dollars, for that matter? Because I've seen those in articles on this platform as well. What is the standard?
I really want to know because I don't think this article deserves to be deleted. I'm happy to adjust to fit standards, and have attempted to do so in the past. But it seems like the "promotional" standard is based on a sliding scale.
And I don't just edit Ramsey-related articles. I have edited and created articles on a variety of subjects from pop culture to music, American history, Disney, etc. Ramsey was just something where I saw a need and filled it. 2719Hyperion (talk) 02:49, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Proposal to merge with The Ramsey Show: After giving this some thought and after reviewing the GNG and SNG, I'm agreeing with this nomination. The Kamel article should be merged with The Ramsey Show, as Kamel is best known for being a co-host of the show. I will work on merging these articles. 2719Hyperion (talk) 01:52, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Hans Bøchmann Melchior (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails NACADEMIC. No sources found on Google Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 22:42, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jens Hoffmann (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am the subject of this article and am requesting a courtesy deletion. The only notable aspect to my career in terms of wide in-depth press coverage is only one event, and no other coverage reveals substantial public interest in my career - the rest are run of the mill sources or passing mentions. There has been a banner at the top of the page for seven years asking for additional citations for verification, and none have come forward that changed its status. I would ask for the community to delete my page, which I had no hand in creating. JHHM (talk) 00:27, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Charu Chandra Bandyopadhyay (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Insufficient Sources. Rahmatula786 (talk) 05:47, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jerusalem Demsas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NAUTHOR. Lacks direct and in-depth coverage in independent secondary sources. Self-auhtored articles are not enough to prove her notability. Gheus (talk) 14:15, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep:
Multiple references show significant, not trivial, coverage in independent secondary sources, discussing her early life (references 1-5), professional career and her views and contributions to the discussion of the housing crisis. An important notability factor (WP:AUTHOR) relies on the following: The person's work (or works) has won significant critical attention. Her book has received has significant critical attention, including book reviews in major sites including Vox and Bloomberg News (ref 9), which stated that Demsas "has distinguished herself within the supply-side camp." Her overall work has led to multiple high profile interviews, including on Bloomberg (ref. 9), NPR (ref. 11) and Ezra Klein's NYTimes interview (ref. 12), indicating her work has had significant attention. Per WP:NAUTHOR, references 8 & 9 show she is known for originating a significant new concept, further enhancing her notability. Included in the article were her opinions on the housing crisis; there is no Wikipedia injunction against discussing a subject's views. There is no Wikipedia injunction against using the subject's self-authored published works in reputable publications to verify the information presented. The references discussed above were used to verify Demsas' views, not to establish notability. And, only 4/23 references even fall within that purview. In brief: "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject." (Wikipedia:Notability (people)). The article meets all criteria.
I note that the first reviewer (Ipigott]) did not see a problem with this article, and later removed a tag stating that this article may not achieve notability, claiming that "del tag - no longer applicable." Mwinog2777 (talk) 21:05, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This was because additional pertinent work had been carried out on the article.--Ipigott (talk) 10:47, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Jessica Sarah Flaum (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article has sources but not a single one treats the subject other than passing mentions of her as a member of a cast. A further search reveals only primary sources and a raft of social media entries. Fails both points of WP:NACTOR. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:26, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Fails both points of WP:NACTOR." according to the nominator? What points? How does she fail them if her roles are significant and the productions, notable? -Mushy Yank. 15:44, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Farouk Yousif (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is only one secondary source on the subject which is below the minimum set in the notability guidelines for people set out in WP:BIO. Abolishedtemple (talk) 18:37, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jean Boudriot (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lacking in real sources for WP:BIO, and no reviews that I can find for his book, Le vaisseau de 74 canons, for WP:AUTHOR. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:40, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete : The Fr Wiki article is only a list of national catalogue listings used a sourcing and a list of books. The sourcing is even worse than what's here... I can only find this review of one of his books [36]. I don't see enough sourcing to keep the article. Oaktree b (talk) 13:51, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep This review in the Naval War College journal (?, I'm not sure if it's a magazine or a formal academic jouranl) seems to help this person pass AUTHOR [37]. Oaktree b (talk) 13:55, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Week keep per the two reviews Oaktree found, bearing in mind that most sources about the subject are likely to be a) offline and b) in French. – Joe (talk) 08:03, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Jeffrey Gitomer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am not sure if he is notable. Most of sources seem to be either primary or only tangentially related to him. I am unsure whether he meets WP:CREATIVE; points 3 and 4 are relevant. I am not sure if the attention he got was critical and whether his work has been covered in enough periodical articles. (I see [38], but not much more.) Even if The Little Red Book of Selling had made him notable, he would seem to be a bit too BLP1E-ish, as the rest of the coverage is more-or-less trivial or primary. Janhrach (talk) 15:15, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep - I see plenty of good sources. I remember the incident that lead to his being banned from the airline, so BLP1E doesn't apply. There are issues with the article, but they can be resolved through ordinary editing. Bearian (talk) 13:51, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bearian: Do you think he meets points 3 or 4 of WP:CREATIVE? I did not express that well, but WP:CREATIVE was intended to be the main point of my nom. I am willing to withdraw this nom if there is a convincing argument that he does. Janhrach (talk) 11:16, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I think that he meets factor #3 as having written several related books. Bearian (talk) 11:55, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, but it also says that:

In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series);

I don't see multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, but I haven't really done a thorough search. Like I have written, I have found [39], but the other articles I have found were blogs (or similar), not articles from periodicals. Janhrach (talk) 12:36, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment (may return with !vote) This is a typical promotional article for someone whose main skill is promoting. He writes those books a friend of mine calls "business porn": which promise great wealth not unlike that of megachurch leaders. I removed some irrelevant promotional statements, but there are undoubtedly more. I am not sure that the speaking awards (e.g. "Certified Speaking Professional (CSP) Award") are of value because the organization appears to be a speakers' bureau. Two of the book awards (IPPY) are indeed awards but he is among other winners, in one case one of 66. A fairly snide article in Time magazine was used for one "cute" quote but ignored 4 paragraphs of negative review of his work. (I fixed some of that.) The reviews by Jack Covert seem to be in a personal blog, albeit a pretty ambitious one. His books have sold many copies, and I can see some presence in library collections. I confess that I have little regard for this category of output, along with all of the self-help books. I just thought I should be honest about my prejudice. Lamona (talk) 00:31, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete He has had best-selling books although I do not find the two NY Times pages that are listed here. I do find a 2003 NYT best seller list for "paperback advice" books. It seems odd that an older list turns up in a search on his name but the two newer ones listed here do not. I cannot find anything that is independent to fill in his bio, other than being banned by an airline for bad behavior. The link to 800ceoread is a blog post on a book sales site. As I note above the various positive quotes were cherry-picked. Given the degree of PROMO and the lack of independent sources I tend to have doubts about the sources on the article that I cannot find. Lamona (talk) 16:51, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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