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"Political influences"

This section has been removed and re-instated multiple times. Please discuss the proposed removal here. Removing the NYT source does not seem useful to me, regardless of the section removal. Hrodvarsson (talk) 22:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As a political conservative, Borges "was repulsed by Marxism in theory and practice. Abhorring sentimentality, he rejected the politics and poetics of cultural identity that held sway in Latin America for so long."^[1] As a universalist, his interest in world literature reflected an attitude that was also incongruent with the Peronist populist nationalism. That government's confiscation of Borges's job at the Miguel Cané Library fueled his skepticism of government. He labeled himself a Spencerian anarchist, following his father.^[2]^[3]

References

^ Review, nytimes.com, 31 August 1997.
^ Yudin, Florence (1997). Nightglow: Borges' Poetics of Blindness. City: Universidad Pontificia de Salamanca. p. 31. ISBN 84-7299-385-X.
^ Bell-Villada, Gene (1981). Borges and His Fiction. Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press. p. 13. ISBN 0-8078-1458-X.

It deserved to be removed. All the information there is already in the easily visible part of the article discussing Borges's politics. Including yet another section with the same information just makes the article look sloppy and amateurish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VampireTrout (talk • contribs) 22:33, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I see no reason why the information and sources cannot be incorporated into the existing section(s). You also reverted my edit replacing italics with quotemarks without reason. Hrodvarsson (talk) 00:05, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Voice

the caption to the recording says c. 1970-80, but a female voice at the end of the recording says 1962 ... please correct 62.11.76.22 (talk) 07:37, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism?

I believe this is false: "He was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II in 1964." Fyg50 (talk) 16:53, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ideas of Order

The "Legacy" section read:

"Maria Kodama, his widow and heir on the basis of the marriage and two wills, gained control over his works. Her assertive administration of his estate resulted in a bitter dispute with the French publisher Gallimard regarding the republication of the complete works of Borges in French, with Pierre Assouline in Le Nouvel Observateur (August 2006) calling her "an obstacle to the dissemination of the works of Borges". Kodama took legal action against Assouline, considering the remark unjustified and defamatory, asking for a symbolic compensation of one euro.

Kodama also rescinded all publishing rights for existing collections of his work in English, including the translations by Norman Thomas di Giovanni, in which Borges himself collaborated, and from which di Giovanni would have received an unusually high fifty percent of the royalties. Kodama commissioned new translations by Andrew Hurley, which have become the official translations in English."

Good to know, but that doesn't tell us much about his literary legacy, which is considerable and, I believe, what most people are interested in. I added quote from David Foster Wallace: "The truth, briefly stated, is that Borges is arguably the great bride between modernism and post-modernism in world literature. He is modernist in that his fiction shows a first-rate human mind stripped of all foundations of religious or ideological certainty -- a mind turned wholly inward on itself. His stories are inbent and hermetic, with the oblique terror of a game whose rules are unknown and its stakes everything."

Also considerable is Borges's influence on science fiction, so under "Fact, fantasy and non-linearity" I added "Borges and science fiction, citing John Clute and William Gibson on literary influence.

I notice that "Works" comes after "Death". Wouldn't it make more sense to have "Works" directly after, or perhaps merged with, "Life and career", so that it flows chronologically?

What do you think? User:Kesc4399 (talk) 18:12, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category removed

I have removed Category:Converts to Christianity from atheism or agnosticism because it is not sourced or stated in the article. This is per WP:CATREL. Kk.urban (talk) 19:30, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Review, nytimes.com, 31 August 1997.

[2] Yudin, Florence (1997). Nightglow: Borges' Poetics of Blindness. City: Universidad Pontificia de Salamanca. p. 31. ISBN 84-7299-385-X.

[3] Bell-Villada, Gene (1981). Borges and His Fiction. Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press. p. 13. ISBN 0-8078-1458-X.

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